Ep. 838: How To Translate Animal Language

February 23, 2026

Description

Steven Rinella talks with naturalist, writer, and sculptor George Bumann, Brody Henderson, Phil Taylore, and Corinne Schneider.  Topics discussed: George's book, Eavesdropping On Animals; Animal...
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Books Referenced

Arctic Dreams

Author: Barry Lopez

Context:

Steven mentioned reading about Inuit map drawing in this book, where maps were drawn to the scale of interest rather than geographic accuracy.

What It's Like to Be a Bat

Author: Unknown

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George referenced this essay from the 1930s or early 1940s to illustrate the point that even if we could understand animal language, we still wouldn't truly comprehend their experience.

Prayers to Raven

Author: Richard Nelson

Context:

George mentioned this ethnography work from Alaska that contains a passage about native hunters using raven calls to draw in bears, and discusses the cultural significance of ravens.

Lion Tracker's Guide to Life

Author: Boyd Vardy

Context:

George referenced this book when discussing how one of Vardy's mentors found a lion kill by following flies, demonstrating how animals can lead you to discoveries.

What the Robin Knows

Author: John Young

Context:

George mentioned this 2012 book by his friend, noting that while bird song apps tell you what birds sound like, they don't explain what the vocalizations actually mean.

My Life as a Turkey

Author: Joe Hutto

Context:

George referenced this work when discussing Joe Hutto, who also did significant work with turkeys and later wrote about mule deer.

Touching the Wild

Author: Joe Hutto

Context:

George mentioned this book about mule deer down in Lander, where Hutto explores deeper relationships with wildlife and how it changes one's perspective on hunting.

Eavesdropping on Animals: What We Can Learn from Wildlife Conversations

Author: George Buman

Context:

This is George's new book that the entire podcast interview was centered around, discussing animal language and intelligence.