Ep. 047: Laramie, Wyoming. Steven Rinella talks with Wyoming policy advisers David Willms and Nephi Cole, Ronny Boheme, along with Brody Henderson and Janis Putelis from the MeatEater crew.

Context:

Referenced during a discussion about wolf management history. The speaker mentions 'Elo Leopold has his you know, has his famous epiphany that he that he gives in san County Almanac, which occurs when he was down and I believe in New Mexico doing some wolf depredation.' This is discussing Leopold's famous change in perspective about wolf management that he wrote about in his book.