Ep. 832: Osceola, Native American Slavery, and The Seminole Wars

February 09, 2026

Description

Steven Rinella talks with author Jamie Holmes, Randall Williams, Brody Henderson, Phil Taylor, and Corinne Schneider.  Topics discussed: Jamie's new book, The Free and the Dead: The Untold Story...
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Books Referenced

The Free and the Dead: The Untold Story of the Black Seminole Chief, The Indigenous Rebel, and America's Forgotten War

Author: Jamie Holmes

Context:

Jamie Holmes is the guest on the podcast promoting his third book, which releases February 3rd. The host praises it for both validating and upending preconceived notions about the Indian Wars.

12 Seconds of Silence

Author: Jamie Holmes

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Jamie Holmes mentions this as his second book, about a group of WWII scientists who invented a new weapon to shoot down airplanes. He describes it as the bridge from his first book to his archive-heavy historical narrative nonfiction work.

Nonsense

Author: Jamie Holmes

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Listed as one of Jamie Holmes' previous books when introducing him as a guest on the podcast.

Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion

Author: Cialdini

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Jamie Holmes references 'a book by this guy Cialdini' when explaining behavioral economics and how salespeople and product makers use psychological insights to manipulate people.

The Past Is a Foreign Country

Author: David Lowenthal

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Jamie Holmes discusses this book by scholar David Lowenthal, noting it explores history and heritage as mythologized history, and uses the concept of exploring the past like traveling to a foreign place.

A Short History of Nearly Everything

Author: Bill Bryson

Context:

Jamie Holmes mentions this Bill Bryson book as inspiration for a potential next project, saying he thought it could be fun to do something similar with a cool twist.

Kindred

Author: Unknown

Context:

Steven Rinella suggests this book about Neanderthals when discussing the difficulty of finding a guest to talk about Neanderthals on the podcast.